And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth...
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth (Rev. 17:9, 18).
Attempts to interpret Revelation chapters seventeen and eighteen usually center around Rome and different variations of what is called "a revived Roman Empire" -- interpretative ideology remaining essentially unchanged since the Reformation almost five hundred years ago. Within this ideology, "that great city" in Rev. 17:18 is erroneously identified as Rome; and probably more often than not "the woman" dwelling on the seven mountains (v. 9) is erroneously identified as the Catholic Church headquartered in Rome, a city historically built on seven hills.
A New Beginning
An interpretation of this nature, associating that seen in these chapters with Rome, is derived through one means alone -- through reading secular history into Biblical prophecy, while, at the same time, ignoring both that stated in the text and context of the prophecy. Revelation 17:9 is not dealing with a city built on seven hills. There is no reference whatsoever in this verse to a geographical location of this nature. The corrected text, under stood in the light of the context, makes this very clear. Nor could that stated in verses such as 18:20, 24 be said of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church could not be charged with "the blood of prophets, and of saints, and all that were slain upon the earth." As previously shown, that could be and is said of the Jewish people alone. Scripture is very clear on this matter as well.
Israel alone can be looked upon as "The Mother of Harlots," shedding blood in the previous respect. Through actions surrounding her disobedience as the wife of Jehovah -- forsaking her calling and forming forbidden alliances with the nations, refusing to be a people separate from the nations -- Israel ultimately found herself in a position which, in all respects, was diametrically opposed to the position which the nation had been called to occupy (Ex. 19:5, 6; Deut. 7:1ff).
Israel ultimately found herself scattered among and in subjection to the very nations which she had been called to rule over and be separate from; Israel ultimately found herself at the tail rather than at the head of the nations; Israel, rather than being the wife of Jehovah within a theocracy, ultimately found herself in a place separated from the theocracy (actually, within Satan's kingdom, among the nations through whom Satan ruled [cf. Dan. 10:13-21]); in a national respect, the wife of Jehovah found herself having forbidden relationships with the Gentile nations (something which had begun to occur long before her dispersion among these nations); and Israel, in this place, ultimately found herself viewed as "The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth," as she resided among various Gentile lovers, aligning herself with these nations in a manner completely contrary to God's revealed will (Lev. 26; Deut. 28; cf. Ezek. 16:28-39; 23:1-35; Hosea 2:5-13).
(The Catholic Church, at the very most, could be considered no more than a daughter [18:7], with the shed blood, in the final analysis, being credited to the mother [though even considering Rome to be a daughter would be an incorrect way to view matters surrounding these two chapters, for, principally, nations are being dealt with (cf. 17:1, 2, 15), not religious organizations].)
Rome is brought into the picture through viewing what is referred to as a revived Roman Empire. And the thought of a revived Roman Empire comes mainly from a misinterpretation of parts of the Book of Daniel. The fourth part of Daniel's image is viewed as Roman (the legs are attributed to Rome in history, and the feet are attributed to Rome yet future, in revived form). However, Daniel identifies all four parts of the image, and the fourth part is identified by Daniel as other than Roman.
Note in the Book of Daniel how matters are handled concerning the identification of the third and fourth "great beasts'" in chapters seven and eight (another picture of that seen in the image from ch. 2). Beginning with the third beast, matters move, without a break, from the kingdom of Babylon under Alexander the Great (and a division of his kingdom among his four generals following his death) into the kingdom of Babylon under the Beast. There is no Roman kingdom lying between these two parts of this Babylonian kingdom (depicted by the third and fourth parts of the image seen standing in Babylon in ch. 2). Rome has no part in this kingdom as it is depicted in Daniel's prophecy.
Seeing Rome in this image, or among the "four great beasts," can only be done one way. It can only be done the same way Rome is seen in Revelation chapters seventeen and eighteen -- through reading secular history into Biblical prophecy. And, without a Roman Empire in the Book of Daniel, one can't have a revived Roman Empire in the Book of Revelation, for the latter is contingent on the former.
(Nor can the thought of a revived Roman Empire be derived from Dan. 9:26, as many attempt to do, seeking to connect the prophesied destruction of Jerusalem with a destruction by the Romans in 70 A.D. Rather, this text can only refer to a destruction of Jerusalem within the scope of time covered by the prophecy. Events seen in the prophecy cannot occur outside this time-frame [e.g., the reference to Messiah being "cut off" would have had to refer to events at the end of the four hundred and eighty-third year, before God stopped marking time in the prophecy]. And, accordingly, since the destruction of Jerusalem in this prophecy didn't occur during the first four hundred and eighty-three years, it must be viewed as an event which will occur during the last seven years.
Refer to the subsequent part of this article, Comments on Daniel Chapters Two, Seven, and Nine, for additional information pertaining to Daniel's image [Dan. 2], the four wild beasts [Dan. 7], and the prince that shall come [Dan. 9].)
An exact wording of the text, the context, and comparing Scripture with Scripture are everything in correct Biblical interpretation. As has been shown, the Book of Daniel identifies all four parts of the image, and the fourth part is identified as other than Roman; and, in like manner, as has been shown, the Book of Revelation identifies the harlot, and the harlot is identified as other than Roman as well.
Comments on Daniel Chapters Two, Seven, and Nine
The most widely held position among students of the Word concerning Daniel's image in Daniel chapter two (or the "four great beasts" in Daniel chapter seven) views the four parts of the image (or the "four great beasts") as representing 1) Babylon, 2) Media-Persia, 3) Greece, and 4) Rome. This would be the position set forth in the Scofield Reference Bible footnotes for example, a position followed by most commentators.
1) Daniel Chapters Two and Seven
The only part of the prophecy really in question would be the fourth part of the image (ch. 2), or the fourth "great beast" (ch. 7). Daniel identifies the first three beasts (and, correspondingly, the first three parts of the image) as particular Gentile nations forming world kingdoms whose governmental rule had been established in Babylon (the first by conquering the Assyrian Empire, and the latter two by conquering Babylon itself), and this part of the prophecy has been fulfilled and is a matter of history.
But should the fourth part of the image (or the fourth beast) be identified as Rome? There are two main reasons why people interpret the prophecy after this fashion: 1) Rome was the next world power following Greece; and 2) the words, "and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary," in Dan. 9:26, are usually associated with a Roman destruction in history (by Titus in 70 A.D.) and a Roman prince in prophecy (the Beast of Rev. 13, Antichrist). In this respect, both the historical and prophetic aspects, as they are said to relate to Rome, are connected with the fourth part of the image (or the fourth beast).
Greece was the third kingdom (represented by the belly and thighs of brass on the image); and the fourth kingdom (represented by the legs of iron, and in its final form by the feet part of iron and part of clay) would, from history, seem to be Rome -- the next world power following Greece -- with the final form of the image looked upon as a revived Roman Empire. This interpretation would appear to be substantiated by Dan. 9:26. In this verse, as previously shown, "the prince that shall come," would be Antichrist; and "the people of the prince [understood as 'his people']," who would one day destroy the city of Jerusalem, are looked upon as a reference to the Romans destroying Jerusalem in 70 A.D under Titus. Thus, Antichrist is said to be a latter-day Roman prince who will rule a revived Roman Empire.
In other words, all of Daniel's image except the feet would have a historical fulfillment. The legs would represent the Roman Empire in history, and the feet would represent the revived Roman Empire during the Tribulation. And the same would hold true for the corresponding description set forth by the "four great beasts" in Daniel chapter seven. The first three beasts would have a historical fulfillment, and the fourth would have a fulfillment in both history and prophecy. The fourth beast would represent the Roman Empire in both history and prophecy, corresponding to the legs and feet of the image.
Is the preceding though the way Scripture sets forth the fourth and final part of this Babylonian kingdom? Or is this an attempt to interpret Biblical prophecy through using events in secular history rather than interpreting prophecy by comparing Scripture with Scripture? The answer is easy to ascertain if one remains solely within that which Daniel (and related Scripture) reveals about the whole matter.
Note first of all that Daniel's image is seen standing in Babylon (2:31). This image has to do with a Babylonian kingdom from beginning to end. "The head of gold" has to do with the kingdom of Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar and any immediate successors prior to the conquest of the kingdom by Gentile power(s) represented by the breast and arms of silver (2:37, 38). "The breast and arms of silver" have to do with the Medes and the Persians coming in and conquering the preceding kingdom (2:39; 5:28, 31). And "the belly and thighs of brass" have to do with the Grecians coming in and conquering the kingdom ruled by the Medes and the Persians (2:39; 8:6, 7, 20, 21; 10:20).
The mechanics of the preceding, of course, form the interpretation held in common by almost anyone reading Daniel. This is simply what the record in Daniel states, along with secular history.
But note something often overlooked about the preceding: This kingdom is Babylonian throughout. The powers represented by the head of gold, the breast and arms of silver, and the belly and thighs of brass all reigned from Babylon. For example, when the Medes and the Persians came in and took the kingdom in 538 B.C., they reigned from Babylon and were still there when Alexander the Great came over in 330 B.C., 208 years later. Then, when Alexander the Great took the kingdom, he also reigned from Babylon. In other words, the image is not seen lying down, with the head of gold in Babylon, the breast and arms of silver in Media and Persia, and the belly and thighs of brass in Greece. That's not the picture at all. The image is seen standing in Babylon. It is Babylonian in its entirety.
(Note that "Babylon" in history was a city-state, which, from Biblical prophecy, will apparently exist once again when the final form of Daniel's image appears [i.e., Babylon existing as a city-state yet future as well]. In this respect, Babylon is used in Scripture referring to both the city and the state, which included [and apparently will include] other cities; cf. Jer. 51:29-32, 42,43].)
The fact that the image in Daniel chapter two is Babylonian in its entirety is one place where those who view a Roman Empire next in the prophecy go astray. Rome had nothing to do with a reign from Babylon in history. The capital of the Roman Empire was Rome, not Babylon. And Rome is not Babylon, regardless of the attempts by some individuals to see certain things moved from Babylon to Rome in time past, seeking to align and identify Rome with Babylon in this respect.
If there were such a thing as a revived Roman Empire though, there could possibly be room for the final form of the Roman Empire to be connected with Babylon, for Babylon, back on the Euphrates, will be the capital of the earth during the last half of the Tribulation. But such will not be the case.
Those viewing Rome as representing the fourth part of the image try to press secular history into Biblical prophecy at a point where it seems to possibly fit, but really doesn't. Then they further complicate the matter by a misinterpretation of Dan. 9:26.
But the most interesting thing about the whole matter -- the central thing which voids all thought of Rome having a part in the prophecy -- is the fact that Daniel identifies all four parts of the image, and he identifies the fourth part as being other than the Roman Empire. Daniel, in his identity, has Antichrist coming into power immediately following a four-way division of the kingdom after Alexander the Great's death. The kingdom under Antichrist follows the Greco-Babylonian kingdom and is represented by the legs of iron, and in its final form by the feet part of iron and part of clay.
(No break in time is seen in the Book of Daniel between powers represented by the third and fourth parts of the image, similar to no break in time being subsequently seen in the book between the sixty-ninth and seventieth weeks in Daniel's Seventy-Week prophecy. However, it is evident from both Biblical and secular history that a break in time exists at these respective points in both prophecies, though no break in time precedes these in either prophecy.
This break though between the third and fourth parts of the image doesn't lead to and end with Rome. Rather, it leads to and ends with the kingdom of Antichrist.)
The first part of the image is identified in Dan. 2:37, 38. Then, following this, the remaining three parts of the image are presented, though not identified at this point in the book. Then, note the prominence given to the fourth part -- two verses cover the first part (vv. 37, 38), one verse the next two parts (v. 39), but six verses are devoted to the final form, along with its destruction (vv. 40-45). And such prominence relative to the fourth part is true elsewhere in Daniel as well (see chs. 7, 8, 11). Why would such prominence be given to Rome and not to nations associated with the first three parts of the image? It's not! Rather, it's the kingdom of Babylon under its last king (Antichrist) which occupies the forefront in the Book of Daniel.
The identities of the other three parts of the image, beginning with the breast and arms of silver, are given in the vision of the "four great beasts," and the interpretation of this vision is given in chapters seven and eight. The "four great beasts" are said to represent four kingdoms (four sequential kingdoms forming the one Babylonian kingdom [7:17; cf. v. 23]), and beginning with the second beast, the last three are identified in chapter eight.
For the identity of the second, compare verses three and four with verse twenty (cf. Dan. 5:28, 31); for the identity of the third, compare verses five through eight with verses twenty-one and twenty-two; and for the identity of the fourth, compare verses nine through fourteen with verses twenty-three through twenty-six. Note that the identity of the second is Media and Persia (a dual kingdom, corresponding to the breast and arms of silver on the image), the identity of the third is Greece (corresponding to the belly and thighs of brass), and the identity of the fourth is the kingdom under Antichrist (corresponding to the legs of iron and the feet part of iron and part of clay).
Where is Rome? Rome is not in the prophecy!
Following Alexander the Great's death, the kingdom was divided among his four generals (vv. 8, 22), and the vision then goes immediately into the days of Antichrist yet future (the "little horn" in v. 9 is not Antiochus Epiphanes, but Antichrist [see parallel verses, vv. 23-26]).
So, what happened? The kingdom under Alexander the Great's four generals gradually faded from view. And though the prophecy in Daniel chapter eight covers this division of the kingdom following Alexander the Great's death (8:8b), it does not cover events during the reign of these four generals following this division. Rather, following this division of the kingdom, Daniel's prophecy in chapter eight goes immediately into the power represented by the fourth part of the image (or the power represented by the fourth beast), i.e., into the days of Antichrist (vv. 9ff).
(The same prophetic scene is repeated in Dan. 11:3, 4, 21ff, providing additional details. And whether the verses lying between the division of Alexander the Great's kingdom in this section [v. 4] and the appearance of Antichrist [v. 21] -- i.e., vv. 5-20 -- are looked upon as depicting events during the years following Alexander the Great's death or depicting events during the several years immediately preceding Antichrist's rise to power is immaterial insofar as the matter at hand is concerned. Exactly the same thing is seen in chapter eleven as was previously seen in chapter eight. The kingdom seen following the four-way division of Alexander the Great's kingdom is the same in both chapters -- that of Antichrist, not Rome [cf. 8:8, 9, 21-23; 11:4, 21].)
About two hundred and eighty years following Alexander the Great's death (about 40 B.C.), Rome appeared on the scene as the succeeding world power, but not as a world power fulfilling any part of Daniel's prophecy surrounding the kingdom of Babylon. This prophecy will not again continue to be fulfilled until Antichrist appears during Daniel's Seventieth Week. Then, and only then, will the fourth part of the image from Daniel chapter two and the fourth beast in Daniel chapter seven come into existence.
2) Daniel Chapter Nine
Now, what about "the people of the prince that shall come" in Dan. 9:26? Does that not refer to a destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. and to the Romans being Antichrist's people in history? Not at all.
First note the expression, "the people of the prince that shall come," and compare this with a similar expression in Dan. 7:27 -- "the people of the saints of the most High [lit. 'the high places' (also pl. in the Heb. text in vv. 18, 22, 25b)]," who will one day take the kingdom (v. 18).
Note in verse eighteen that the ones who will one day take the kingdom are said to be "the saints of the most High ['the high places']," and in verse twenty-seven they are said to be "the people of the saints of the most High ['the high places']." The expression, "the people of the saints of the most High ['the high places']" in verse twenty-seven, is, contextually, a reference to the saints themselves from verse eighteen.
And this same type expression in Dan. 9:26 should be understood the same way that interpretation has already been established in the previous chapter of the book. "The people of the prince" in Dan. 9:26, contextually, has to be understood as a reference to the prince himself (and possibly also including those ruling with him). Failure to recognize the book's own built in interpretation for Dan. 9:26 has resulted in confusion.
The destruction of Jerusalem in Dan. 9:26 is not a reference to the destruction which occurred in 70 A.D. but rather a reference to a future destruction under Antichrist in the middle of the Tribulation. This is the same destruction referred to in Luke 21:20-24 (cf. Rev. 11:2). Also note that Matt. 24:15ff and Luke 21:20ff parallel one another, depicting events in and around Jerusalem beginning in the middle of the Tribulation. Matthew's gospel centers around one aspect of the matter (the rebuilt Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem), and Luke's gospel centers around another aspect of the matter (the city of Jerusalem itself).
The destruction in Dan. 9:26 must occur within the framework of time covered by the Seventy Weeks. This destruction has to do with events occurring in connection with Daniel's prophecy of the Seventy-Weeks and can only occur during time covered by this prophecy, and contextually it occurs in connection with Antichrist breaking his covenant with Israel in verse twenty-seven (cf. Dan. 11:22-32; 12:11; Matt. 24:15; II Thess. 2:3, 4; Rev. 6:3, 4).
3) "The End of the Days" (Dan. 12:13)
Where this man's actions will lead is outlined in detail in both the Books of Daniel and Revelation, along with a number of other books and numerous sections of Scripture. This is the man whom God, in the final analysis, will use to bring His plans and purposes surrounding Israel to pass. Despite this man's goals, aims, ambitions, and aspirations -- as he exercises power and great authority from Satan's throne itself (Rev. 13:2) -- God, in His sovereign control of all things, will use this man to both bring Israel to the place of repentance and bring Gentile world power to the place of destruction. This will be followed by God's judgment falling upon this man, on the basis of the unchangeable principles set forth in Gen. 12:3.
Then, God's firstborn Sons -- Christ, Israel, and the Church (following the adoption) -- will occupy their proper places on and over the earth during the ensuing Messianic Era.
Arlen L. Chitwood, The Lamp Broadcast, Inc., Norman, Okla.
E-mail: alchitwood@att.net.